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Post by batchief909 on Sept 4, 2007 11:04:32 GMT -4
No it isn't....... ;D Loggy,,,,try some of the PA conicals that Hornady sells. They may work better than the balletts. They're designed for slow twist barrels. Either way you go,,,it looks like the rifle is gonna digest anything you feed it! A big .54 roundball is nothing to sneeze at....
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Post by loggy on Sept 4, 2007 12:08:26 GMT -4
chief, i saw the hornady's in the 50 but not 54?
Berks, the last porker I poked with a .504 460 grain No Excuse conical & i got a squeal and a 500 yard chase. Hit was a lil high though. ;D
I'm confident that a 54 ball in the strike zone will do the job! Notin to sneeze (or oink) at for sure!!!
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Post by zimmerstutzen on Sept 4, 2007 14:23:36 GMT -4
That's pretty deep rifling for a conical to fill the grooves and seal the bore. A heavy patch and 530 ball is probably the ticket for loading without busting your hand trying to start the ball.
Generally, a loose patch ball combo leads to more fouling with real black. The tighter the combo, the better compression behind the ball and more thorough the powder is burned. ie less fouling. This is true until the powder charge is so large, the powder is not all comsumed before the ball leaves the muzzle. Once that powder level is exceeded, fouling tends to builds up regardless. Still burning powder residue left in the bore when the ball leaves the muzzle the pressure drop is almost immediate leaving that fouling from the powder that is still burning. Because 3f burns slightly faster than 2f, barrel fouling tends to be less with 3f with the same patch ball combo. According to the Lyman Black Powder Handbook, in a 26 inch 50 cal barrel, the point of more powder than can burn before the ball leaves the muzzle, is around 80 to 90 grains. After that, for each ten grains of powder charge, the velocity continues to increase, but at a decreasing rate.
At a buddy's suggestion, I once tried competing in a stake shoot and just loaded balls without patches to save time. After 6 shots, the fouling was so bad, I had trouble seating a naked ball all the way to the powder charge. Took forever to scrub it out too.
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Post by soupe on Sept 4, 2007 16:21:27 GMT -4
Ouch I just tried to picture that barrel. I shoot .535 ers. I`ve been told my barrel is oversized. (Deerstalker) .535 with lubed .15's and I can shoot 10 times without much problem. Like the "textbook"(no offense obviously) said If its not tight enough it fouls. I went from 90 of FF to 80 of FFF. I like FFF better but I'm not sure why
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Post by berkscoflinter1 on Sept 4, 2007 19:02:49 GMT -4
Soupe, I agree with your experience with your .54. I can't imagine ANYTHING in North America moving beyond a broadside hammering from a .54 roundball within its killing range, and a well placed shot. These boars will have to be armor-plated if a .54 cal. round ball can't drop them, but that is just my opinion.
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Post by dickert54cal on Sept 4, 2007 19:21:54 GMT -4
JMHO----thus far I feel teh 3F (for me) burns a little better than the 2F......HOWEVER Im going to give 2 F another try in the custom gun after deer season
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Post by loggy on Sept 7, 2007 15:06:21 GMT -4
Had a discussion with Brad Emig regarding 2fg VS 3fg in a 54 caliber.
He said in all his years in the business he only had 2 instances where a customer noted better perfomance with 3fg VS 2fg in the 54's. He said 3fg would produce more pressure & chances of blowin patch would increase & he really didnt favor the 3fg.
Now I need some 2fg Swiss!!! Got plentya 3fg. ;D ;D
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Post by dickert54cal on Sept 7, 2007 20:17:00 GMT -4
With those measurements Im pretty sure a 530 ball and a .015 or .020 patch will server her well.
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Post by loggy on Sept 15, 2007 20:05:47 GMT -4
I gotta free some time up to get to Dixons. All my jags etc are 50 caliber. works startin to get in the road being out of town all the time! ;D
I always used .015 pillow ticking patches in my 50's. What do you all favor plus anymore info on your 54 cal loads is much appreciated!
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Post by dickert54cal on Sept 15, 2007 20:41:54 GMT -4
Loggy ----if you need 54 cal stuff Cabelas is a good place to get a few things in the mail---there is a place in WVA as well that is great to deal with---its where I got my flints in bulk--Ill get the name for you Im having a senior moment--LOL
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Post by loggy on Sept 15, 2007 21:01:10 GMT -4
Thanks dickert54cal,. I just checked my RMC catalog & see they too have a lot of 54 cal goodies!! ;D I want to get a nice 40"range rod for range work. Dont have nuttin long enuff for that 38" Colerain barrel! ;D I see RMC does custom cuts to your desired length on solid brass rods that are pretty reasonable. Have a solid brass rod for my inlines & love it. They have super fast shipping. I wanna get a smokin cause the TN Hog Hunt is closing in fast!! RMC's Site:rmcsports.com/
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Post by berkscoflinter1 on Sept 16, 2007 17:46:07 GMT -4
Loggy, Dixon's carry a nice assortment of range rods as well. I got one for my .36 cal. there a couple of months ago.
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Post by loggy on Sept 16, 2007 18:22:23 GMT -4
Loggy, Dixon's carry a nice assortment of range rods as well. I got one for my .36 cal. there a couple of months ago. I know berks, wish I could get there..... problem is i wont be in the area before 10/20 when Kutztown U's Parents weekend is. I wanted to get there before but work is tuff right now with me bein in DC alot. I need all the time I can get in preparing for facing those TN Hogs!! ;D Hope to call RMC order in tomorow. I wanted to get some 2fg Swiss but think I will go with 3fg Swiss which I have plenty. 80 grains for starter. Dont tell Brad!!! ;D
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