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Post by skwirl on Jan 1, 2008 20:20:59 GMT -4
do you provide supplemental feeding during the winter? If so what do you feed?
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Post by spike420 on Jan 2, 2008 0:13:03 GMT -4
not yet but i will be seeting up 3 55 gal feeders in the woods behind my house. they will be filled with corn and since i work at a produce company there will be plenty of apples corn watermelons mangoes and whatever else that is too ripe to ship to stores
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jan 8, 2008 22:40:52 GMT -4
the talk on that subject is to much a chance of disease to be transmitted from deer to deer. i could be wrong on this . so i'm sure somebody will let us know
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Post by rs on Jan 9, 2008 14:27:15 GMT -4
I feed a mixture of sweet horse feed and corn , but about the only thing that is comeing in this year are turkeys and squirrels , i dont suppose that has anything to do with deer density in my area.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jan 9, 2008 17:01:53 GMT -4
wait i'll go ask our resident expert on the other post. ;D ;D
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Post by dougell on Jan 9, 2008 18:17:10 GMT -4
I'm glad you asked longbeard.I'm not going to bore you with all the negative reasons why you shouldn't feed deer corn in the wintertime.It's well documented though and easy to research .I'd also caution you about feeding deer sweet feed during the wintertime.Too much of it will do more harm then good.I raise horses and I monitor their intake of sweet feed very closely.Too much of it will cause them to colic.Deer have a digestive system that changes during the wintertime to help them
Feeding deer is really a feel good measure that usually does no good except to concentrate deer in areas where they can spread disease and be easy pickings for predators.If you have good habitat,there's no reason to feed.But hey,if it makes you feel better,knock yourself out.A better idea would be to contact a local landmanager and tell them you want to partcipate in doeing some edge cuts.
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Post by dougell on Jan 9, 2008 18:21:42 GMT -4
I'm glad you asked longbeard.I'm not going to bore you with all the negative reasons why you shouldn't feed deer corn in the wintertime.It's well documented though and easy to research .I'd also caution you about feeding deer sweet feed during the wintertime.Too much of it will do more harm then good.I raise horses and I monitor their intake of sweet feed very closely.Too much of it will cause them to colic.Deer have a digestive system that changes during the wintertime to help them
Feeding deer is really a feel good measure that usually does no good except to concentrate deer in areas where they can spread disease and be easy pickings for predators.If you have good habitat,there's no reason to feed.But hey,if it makes you feel better,knock yourself out.A better idea would be to contact a local landmanager and tell them you want to partcipate in doeing some edge cuts.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jan 9, 2008 18:48:38 GMT -4
boy that didn't take long. as I've said hunted all over western pa from north to south and the only time i found dead deer in the woods was during scouting for spring turkey in the ANF. but these deer didn't starve they died from broken legs. that year in the early seventies we had a bad year for ice storms. and most of the deer were dead on the hillside with their bodies wrapped around trees. hey expert you remember the 70's didn't it involve kindergarten or something.
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Post by dougell on Jan 9, 2008 18:56:31 GMT -4
Actually it did but at least I paid attention.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jan 9, 2008 21:15:22 GMT -4
the last person i know of who tought so much of him self was in germany in the 1940's and it cost six million people their lives. he thought he knew better than the rest to
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Post by dougell on Jan 10, 2008 10:55:40 GMT -4
Other than providing personal attacks you haven't offered one piece of information that has been relevent to any discussion.Why is it,you call me an expert for you have a rebuttal for everything someone says that defends the deer program?I'm doing nothing but relaying information that I've learned from wildlife and forestry professionals.You're the one arguing with it and saying it's not true.You must have a huge ego tyo think youknow more than professionals that deal with this stuff for a living.
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Post by skwirl on Jan 10, 2008 14:10:33 GMT -4
I really hate to say this but I have a difficult time giving any credence to statements made by any professional affiliated with the PGC.
The reason I say this is because the powers that be, over the years ,to say the least, have mislead us (JMO)
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Post by dougell on Jan 10, 2008 15:51:28 GMT -4
I used to feel that way myself.Alt certainly mislead the sportsman of this state in many regards.However,he's been gone for a while now and I still haven't talked to a single professional forester or wildlife biologist that doesn't work for the PGC that doesn't agree with the present deer management plan.
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Post by rs on Jan 10, 2008 16:16:38 GMT -4
And that is where the problem is , they agree with whatever the pgc wants.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jan 10, 2008 18:07:56 GMT -4
no where in here did i bring up any names if you think I'm talking to you, you must a have a guilty conscious. everybody here is entitle to their opinion on here but some think their's is the only right one. yes the deer herd was to big. yes the habitat was bad and something needed to be done . nowhere on here has anybody said that someone is nuts for saying they've seen a lot of deer. but every time someone says they haven't seen deer the same people are there putting them down that they don't know how to hunt or are lazy hunter. so how about giving everybody a break and understand what they say. yes i agree with the herd reduction just not this far. unless everybody has hunted all the areas other people are in the opinion you give matters little. if the habitat is your game good for you. but other shouldn't be criticized for their opinion because you have your own agenda. just the same way you and the rest are entitled to their's
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