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Flints
Apr 6, 2008 12:59:37 GMT -4
Post by customgunsocks on Apr 6, 2008 12:59:37 GMT -4
We need help with some flint info. My wife and I shoot a few times, then no spark again. We have tried wiping the frizzen with an alcohol pad, grinding the flint, chipping the flint, nothing seems to work for very long. We have both become pretty good shots with our flinters when we have spark, that seems to help. We were also told that our Traditions frizzen is of poor quality, dont know. We are using T/C flints right now, not sure im allowed to say that, oh well.
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Flints
Apr 6, 2008 18:53:52 GMT -4
Post by Twowithone on Apr 6, 2008 18:53:52 GMT -4
Yep you got a bad frizzen. You should be getting if your using TC. flints 40 shots per end and do a flip on the other end and get 40 more.
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Flints
Apr 7, 2008 9:08:10 GMT -4
Post by zimmerstutzen on Apr 7, 2008 9:08:10 GMT -4
Traditions don't have the best frizzens, but TC flints, IMHO, are below standards. You need a solid gray English Flint When you hold it up to the light, it should be slightly tanslucent with no visible cracks and no swirls of other colors in it. It should be about a 1/16 inch less in width than the frizzen. One of the important things concerning flint locks is the geometry of how the flint edge swings down against the curve of the frizzen. If it hits low or bashed into it at too close to a 90 degree angle it will just be breaking flints. Traditions don't have the best lock geometry, If it is one of the lo9cks that CVA had designed years back, the geometry will be better. (Tradtions contracted with some of CVA's makers to produce the same guns for Traditions from the same production line and dies. Although CVA's quality was a bit better, I had pretty dood luck with CVA's locks. Some of the newer models of Tradtions' locks are much lower in quality.
I have an English Flint in a Traditions copy of the CVA Frontier rifle and that flint has lasted for well over 150 shots and 20 years. I did have to put a spacer under the flint in the jaws to raise the flint an 1/8 inch.
I am puzzled by your comment about grinding the flints. TC cut flints are very hard to "grind"
and require a special stone.
Generally, Traditions frizzens are made out of proper steel, but the geometery is screwed up. The frizzen should be a gray steel. If it i case colored, it is a piece of crap.
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Flints
Apr 7, 2008 9:18:14 GMT -4
Post by zimmerstutzen on Apr 7, 2008 9:18:14 GMT -4
Traditions don't have the best frizzens, but TC flints, IMHO, are below standards. You need a solid gray English Flint When you hold it up to the light, it should be slightly tanslucent with no visible cracks and no swirls of other colors in it. It should be about a 1/16 inch less in width than the frizzen. One of the important things concerning flint locks is the geometry of how the flint edge swings down against the curve of the frizzen. If it hits low or bashed into it at too close to a 90 degree angle it will just be breaking flints. Traditions don't have the best lock geometry, If it is one of the lo9cks that CVA had designed years back, the geometry will be better. (Tradtions contracted with some of CVA's makers to produce the same guns for Traditions from the same production line and dies. Although CVA's quality was a bit better, I had pretty dood luck with CVA's locks. Some of the newer models of Tradtions' locks are much lower in quality.
I have an English Flint in a Traditions copy of the CVA Frontier rifle and that flint has lasted for well over 150 shots and 20 years. I did have to put a spacer under the flint in the jaws to raise the flint an 1/8 inch.
I am puzzled by your comment about grinding the flints. TC cut flints are very hard to "grind"
and require a special stone.
Generally, Traditions frizzens are made out of proper steel, but the geometery is screwed up. The frizzen should be a gray steel. If it i case colored, it is a piece of crap.
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Flints
Apr 7, 2008 18:28:38 GMT -4
Post by customgunsocks on Apr 7, 2008 18:28:38 GMT -4
Thank you, I will order new flints, traditions came out with a larger frizzen, not sure it is any better but I will order 2 of them and give it a whirl. Where is a good place to buy these english flints?
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Flints
Apr 7, 2008 23:56:07 GMT -4
Post by zimmerstutzen on Apr 7, 2008 23:56:07 GMT -4
I won't buy packaged flints. I'll get to a black powder shoot or shop and there's usually a bowl or two of English flints that I pick through. Just ordering a couple flints may get you some crap. And many times packaged english flints are also crap. At least at the shops, I can pick through a couple hundred and choose a dozen. A muzzleloader shop, like Dixon's always has an excellent selection. Track of the Wolf , dixie Gun Works, Ft. Chambers, etc.
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Feb 6, 2011 11:24:28 GMT -4
Post by madirishjack on Feb 6, 2011 11:24:28 GMT -4
You could locate a blacksmith, a gunsmith or someone with the ability to reharden your frizzen. That will allow it to work as it should. Cooperstown Trading Post in Valencia, PA has a selection of good frizzens for several frizzen makes. Here's their web site. www.cooperstowntradingpost.com/contact.html
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