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Post by mrlongbeard on Jan 8, 2008 15:11:14 GMT -4
with all the different styles of compounds and other bows. what do you shoot and why does it work for you. lots of great systems out there now and you can chose from many good manufactures. my current bows are a Hoyt ultratec and a bowtech guardian. both with dual cams that are tied to each other, very smooth and easy to tune.
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Post by whitetail101 on Jan 8, 2008 16:45:51 GMT -4
I use and like the single cam bows.
I have found them to be more forgiving and easier to tune and shoot than the 2 cam bows.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jan 8, 2008 17:38:44 GMT -4
check out some of the new two cams by hoyt , bowtech and pse. the two cams are tied together for better tuning.
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Post by beauregard on Jan 8, 2008 20:47:58 GMT -4
I like the 2 cams also. On some of the bowtech you can choose between the smooth draw or speed module. Even the smooth module gives very good speeds. I am a speed freak though. I shoot a bowtech tribute on 80lb. Dad has a Diamond black ice that has decent speed for a single cam and is extremely smooth and a pleasure to shoot. I like both.
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Post by stickman on Jan 8, 2008 23:06:21 GMT -4
I prefer single, but however I'm sure the new two cam ones these a days have improved just not in the budget right now!
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Post by Buckslayer on Jan 9, 2008 0:22:33 GMT -4
i tried/owned them all,solo cam,cam and 1/2 dual cam and binary cams,sticking with my solo cam i like the wide letoff valley on full drawl and most of the are pretty forgiving,i dont like the short valley on dual cam bows,if you creep a lil the bow wants to take off..
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Post by jeffpahunter on Jan 9, 2008 7:51:11 GMT -4
You know where I stand on this one Buddy... ...... All of my Oneida's are dual cam of course with a timing system synchronizing the two ends. My Monster Bows are cam-less with no timing system. Synchronization/timing is achieved by setting perfect tiller, very simple and fool proof and easy to tune with PERFECTLY level nock travel.... Best of all worlds IMHO, respectable speed, EXTREMELY smooth, nice valley with an extremely solid wall to draw against and quiet.
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Post by bfisher on Jan 9, 2008 9:29:11 GMT -4
You know where I stand on this one Buddy... ...... All of my Oneida's are dual cam of course with a timing system synchronizing the two ends. My Monster Bows are cam-less with no timing system. Synchronization/timing is achieved by setting perfect tiller, very simple and fool proof and easy to tune with PERFECTLY level nock travel.... Best of all worlds IMHO, respectable speed, EXTREMELY smooth, nice valley with an extremely solid wall to draw against and quiet. Giving this some thought, I'd have to add that there probably isn't any cam lean (Limb twist) either. Am I right Jeff? Gees, and I don't even shoot ne of these things.
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Post by jeffpahunter on Jan 9, 2008 9:31:13 GMT -4
Correct Sir.
In addition there is virtually no lateral torque from any cabling that has to travel on one particular side of the bow.
Everything mechanical driving the building, storing and releasing of energy by design is on the exact center of the bow. The end result is minimal if any shock or torque as it is distributed evenly in a forward motion, in the direction of the arrow as it should be.
This ultimately translates into higher efficiency of the bows energy characteristic's.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jan 9, 2008 18:17:03 GMT -4
very intriguing bow that's for sure . is there a reason we haven't seen any testing done on these. i do know most manufactures buy their test results in the mags. but was wondering if there are any reports on them.
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Post by bfisher on Jan 9, 2008 22:36:13 GMT -4
very intriguing bow that's for sure . is there a reason we haven't seen any testing done on these. i do know most manufactures buy their test results in the mags. but was wondering if there are any reports on them. Because they are considered to be ugly. And people don't want what others consider ugly.
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Post by jeffpahunter on Jan 10, 2008 0:06:15 GMT -4
That and different is in my mind likely the biggest reason. By nature we humans are resistant to change and the lever limbed bow to most Archers immediately appears entirely different and unconventional. There have been reviews done. I'll see if I can dig some up tomorrow. There are also a ton of personal reviews done by individual customers that are posted on our forum. Personally I put about as much or maybe even more faith in these types of reviews than I do some of the "experts". While I'm not challenging the "experts" expertise or experience I'm never sure of their motives. Just my personal feelings. Considering just how much I love these bows I just can't bring myself to using that word that bfisher used... ......
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Post by jeffpahunter on Jan 10, 2008 9:03:27 GMT -4
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Post by dougell on Jan 10, 2008 11:37:44 GMT -4
I used to see alot of Oneida's at shoots during the late 80's.I don't know if you're familiar with a place called silver lake but I used to always see several at their shoots.I never owned one but did play around with a couple.What I remember was that they had a very smooth draw and impressive speed for the times.What didn't impress me was the loud thunk they made when you shot them.I imagine that problem has been taken care of by now and I bet they'd make a nice finger bow.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I've owned several dual cams, several Mathews single cams,Darton cam and 1/2 and last year I bougt a bowtech tribute with binary cams.I never had a bow I disliked but so far the Bowtech has been the best.i wouldn't say head and shoulders about the rest but it's fast enough,has a nice grip,quiet and it has a nice back wall,nicer with the speed modues.I set it up last March,tuned it for broaheads and shot it for a couple days before putting a peep on.Nothing ever moved the slightest bit the rest of the year.I'd buy another bowtech.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jan 10, 2008 21:23:10 GMT -4
your right Jeff i don't believe any of the experts to many are bought and paid for. prefer test done by people who have no connections with any bow companies. the biggest offenders are Mathews, Hoyt and pse. this isn't to say they are bad bows but big money buys big names
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