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Post by jakebird on Aug 23, 2008 1:14:02 GMT -4
I'd say all that regenerating oak and bsaically untouched rubus indicates a herd that is WAY WAY below its MSY CC. So anyhow...Why DID the PGC blanket the state with HR, when some places obviously didn't need it? Oh....let me guess. RELIC just found the ONLY good pocket of habitat in the state! LOL! Relic, are you seeing many deer in that fantastic chunk of habitat? You know, if that was the only good habitat like that around, whatever deer are within ten miles of it should have found it and ravaged it by now...right?..So the question that needs answered is....Where are the deer? Nearly all dead in that area? Or is the surrounding habitat also very good?... Or maybe, just maybe........BOTH?
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Post by beenthere on Aug 23, 2008 18:15:50 GMT -4
Here is a post by a knowledgeable and fairly objective guy on another MB.
Competing vegetation is one of the main causes for failed oak regeneration , but the PGC does not take competing vegetation into account when doing their forest health surveys.
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Post by jakebird on Aug 23, 2008 22:47:17 GMT -4
So what is taking place in Relics' area besides the oak responding well to the sunlight? That rubus for such a preffered browse species appears untouched. Did they knock the herd down that badly that there just aren't enough in the area to eat it, or is that small sample of habitat he's been photographing indicative of equally high quality habitat in the surrounding areas? Both answers pose glaring questions about the PGC's blanket approach for HR. Many of the young oaks were in the 10 to 15 yr old age class, so if the herd in his area was decimating the oak during that period they shouldn't be there in any numbers. It appears age classes of trees from saplings to 15 years are abundant, and then there's that rubus again. Also, they deny SEVERE overharvest has occured anywhere as a result of HR. "The deer are there", they tell us. If the deer are "there", they've stopped eating! What we have here is a prime example of an area where the herd had no need to be reduced, and now it obviously has been so, severely. How many other areas like this can we find, I wonder?
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