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Post by Buckslayer on Jun 23, 2007 22:25:38 GMT -4
t/c pa hunter 50 cal 1/66 twist any good?im thinking about buying one..
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Post by whitetail101 on Jun 23, 2007 22:45:47 GMT -4
I can't vouch for the pahunter as I own a TC Firestorm flinter in 50 cal with 1:48 twist.
I will say this, any TC smokepole is a good buy. They are very accurate out of the box. I shot a 1/2 dollar sized group at 50 yds with mine out of the box.
I load mine with 90 grains 777 loose(pellets aren't flexible enough) under Hornady 240 grain XTP sabots.
you can't go wrong with a TC muzzleloader
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Post by woodswalker on Jun 23, 2007 23:01:05 GMT -4
Had one with the QLA system, drove me nuts! Hard to keep the patch centered when loading. Even tried cutting the patch at the muzzle, Ball would pop out of the Barrel. Could not get any accuracy out of it. Guess the QLA was designed for Conicals, keeps them lined up when loading...Sold it!!!
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Post by jimpic on Jun 24, 2007 0:51:15 GMT -4
I had a Pa Hunter Carbine.Very accurate with a .015 patch,round ball,and 90gr fffg.Lousy trigger,though.The 90gr charge is not a starting load.If you get the gun,work up to it.I started at 75gr and worked up 'til I got the accuracy(safely)that I was looking for
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Post by jimpic on Jun 24, 2007 0:53:59 GMT -4
BTW,you never said if you were getting the rifle or the carbine.I never shot the rifle so I can't help ya out on that.The rifle could be a totally differant animal than the short-barreled carbine
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Post by zimmerstutzen on Jun 29, 2007 9:56:39 GMT -4
A TC gun is pretty fair quality out of the box. They had significant problems with their frizzens in the early days , I understand that may be corrected.
Like anything else in life, "whether it is any good" depends on the intended and actual use. For PA woodland hunting, it is good A 1:48 twist isn't much good for long range pin point accuracy with either conicals or round balls. A real conical twist would be more like 1:20 and a round ball twist would be 1:70. If you want to pin point accurate target gun, TC won't fit the bill. 100 yd and 200 yd MOA shooting is possible with muzzleloaders, but I doubt anyone can do it with a stock TC.
I have seen bench folk shoot tight cloverleafs at 300 yds with muzzleloaders. But those guns are very highly specialized.
There are things that can be done to TC's to improve accuracy. That is a whole nuther ball game. If yer lookin for hunting accuracy and plinking, it is great.
Another thing to consider is the cost of shooting. If you will only be hunting and you'll not mind paying the price for pellets and commercially prepped conicals. No problem if you will only be firing 10 or 20 shots a year. If you may wish to fire a couple hundred shots a year, that adds up to alot of green blown down range. If you are going to shoot alot, you'll more likley want to go to loose powder and a round ball barrel. Substantially cheaper to shoot. Some muzzleloader target shooters will go through 15 to 20 lbs of powder a season. Figuring most target shooters limit their charges to around 70 grains. Thats 1500 to 2000 shots a season. Really top notch shooters double and triple that easily.
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Post by loggy on Jun 29, 2007 13:31:02 GMT -4
The TC PA Hunter 1-66 31" bbl was my first flinter & I still own it. A well made & fine shooting flinter.
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Post by whunter on Jun 29, 2007 19:21:32 GMT -4
I have one---no problems with it
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Post by berkscoflinter1 on Jun 29, 2007 20:23:39 GMT -4
I started this flintlock voyage with a TC, right-handed, .50 cal., hawken model that I picked up at an auction. Being a lefty, I couldn't shoot that thing for squat, and successfully developed a awesome flench whenever I shot it. Deer would stand broadside offering the best of killing shots, and my family would spend the winter eating beef.
I couldn't shoot it accurately, but I regret selling it. It was American-made, and fully covered for any and all defects.
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