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Post by boxie30 on Jan 20, 2008 13:32:38 GMT -4
I have played around with my fly rod, pan fishing in some ponds and love it, unfortunately those pan fish will hit anything you drag by their nose.
I've wanted to start trout fishing with it but after several occasions I have had no success with the flies I tried and have no idea of the name of the flies just a combo package bought at wally world.
I'm beginning to realize there are different type of flys and patterns and different times to fish each
My question to all of the experienced fly fisherman is what book or literature, or web site would you suggest could help me best learn the different types of flys and the best times (time of season) for success with each type ?
Thank you to any that could reply
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Post by palongbow on Jan 21, 2008 10:06:15 GMT -4
All kinds of Internet reading to get you up to speed. I would start out by getting some Pheasant Tail nymphs and black/olive wolly buggers. These two flies are fish catchers. Fish the nymphs dead drift and occasionally raise the rod tip...give them a little action. Watch for when they swing downstream because the fish usually like to nail the nymph on the swing. Buggers can be dead drifted or just like you would a minnow.
Dry flies hatches are not all that tough. Here I would read to find out your local hatches. Size and shape of the fly makes the difference with dry fly fishing more than anything else. The idea is to keep things simple. I have seen guys on the stream completely stressed out. The more time you put on the stream the better fly fisherman you will become. Try to fish with someone who has experience with fly fishing.
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Post by boxie30 on Jan 21, 2008 14:53:44 GMT -4
Thanks for the info palongbow the thing i wasn't sure on are the types of flies to use in this area hopefully these two will get me started.
I fish the Northwestern part of the state about 50 mile south of Erie.
I have tried looking up on the net but usually the info doesn't explain the time of season to use or what region a certain fly would be good for...or are these things I shouldn't worry about.
Well thanks again, I plan to get a few of the flys you stated and keep it simple...
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Post by skwirl on Jan 21, 2008 17:43:25 GMT -4
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Post by leverlover on Jan 24, 2008 20:59:25 GMT -4
If it's a book on mayflies and their identification you are seeking, I highly recommend Hatches by Caucci and Nastasi.
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Post by boxie30 on Jan 25, 2008 9:56:09 GMT -4
Thanks for your replies guys much appreciated
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Post by dknappy on Jan 25, 2008 12:30:02 GMT -4
Boxie Gander Mountian in Erie has fly tying class that they run you may want to give them a call. I'm sure there is a lot of good info to be had there. 814 868 0880
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Post by boxie30 on Jan 25, 2008 23:05:53 GMT -4
I'm going to give them a call tomorrow thanks dknappy..
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Post by palongbow on Jan 26, 2008 20:04:07 GMT -4
boxie30 - The key is to get your feet wet..pardon the pun. Read all you can and talk to people in your particular area that fly fish. Most fly fisherman are always willing to help a newbie out. As you read you will see flies that are common and catch fish. Go get a few of these flies and fish. Learning technique is where you need to really start. Again keep fly fishing simple. Enjoy your time of the stream and if I could offer one word of advice is learn to take a step back and watch the bug and trout activity without first wetting a line. Newbies seem rush right into fishing. Just by watching the water will teach a lot of what you need to do.
Ron
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Post by boxie30 on Feb 2, 2008 14:22:15 GMT -4
Bought some flys today got and asortment of woolly buggers :2 size black,a brown, and a olive
looked at the nymphs but they didn't have any phesant tail, they did have elk hair, and a black gnat.... so I didn't get any nymphs today, may goto gander in nile,OH to see their selection...
Do they make a white woolly bugger ??
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Post by palongbow on Feb 4, 2008 22:31:13 GMT -4
Try the gold ribbed Hares ear nymph as well size 14 & 16. The hares ear will pretty much imitate many aquatic nymphs that resides in a creek.
I fished white zonkers and they work pretty good for large trout. Black and olive woolly buggers seem to work the best.
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Post by leverlover on Feb 11, 2008 23:49:02 GMT -4
As far as nymphs go, you can't go wrong with the Gold Ribbed Hares Ear in #12, #14, and #16 to imitate the early season mayfly hatches like the Quill Gordon, March Brown, Cahills and Grey Fox. As the season progresses, and the summer hatches start, a great all around nymph would be the Pheasant Tail in #12, #14, #16 and #18 to match the Sulphers. Thrown in a few Zug Bugs in #8, #10, and #12 to imitate the Brown Drakes, and you should be in pretty good shape. If your streams see the Green Drake, a weighted Green Drake fished deep will bring you trout that you never thought was in the stream. Add a few Brassies, a few caddis emergers in tan, cream, gray and olive and you should be ready for action. Seek out a local fly tyer that ties for a living or to just make a few bucks here and there. He will generally know more about your local hatches, and will produce a better quality fly at a price that will usually be $.40 to $.60 cheaper per fly than your local sport shop. Besides that, you'll feel better about supporting an American rather than some lady from Sri Lanka that has never seen a trout stream in her life, but ties 200 dozen flies per month for some US importer and only recieves $30 for her efforts. Slave labor stinks.
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Post by dpiscator on May 24, 2008 22:49:04 GMT -4
YES! Support me. I tie and I'm getting I disagree kicked by all the foreign flies coming over from Kenya and India. How do they expect quality flies for $5.00 a dozen? I have to charge $9.00 to at least earn a decent living. The US needs to become an isolationist country again like what we were before WWII. People don't need I-Pods from Asia that bad.
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