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Post by willyhuntsdeer on Mar 20, 2007 3:35:17 GMT -4
does anyone know if it is legal to put a scope on a flintlock if you have vision problems such as stigmatism or other eye problems that make it almost impossible to use open sights?
far as that goes...is it even possible to drill and tap it and put a scope on one?
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Post by loggy on Mar 20, 2007 17:17:24 GMT -4
does anyone know if it is legal to put a scope on a flintlock if you have vision problems such as stigmatism or other eye problems that make it almost impossible to use open sights?
far as that goes...is it even possible to drill and tap it and put a scope on one? Willy, i checked through the regs & couldnt find anything that would allow a scope. As far as mounting one...sure. Gun would have to be drilled & tapped likely since most flinters arent. Anyone else have any input on this?
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Post by gullythumper on Mar 20, 2007 18:38:20 GMT -4
As of now, there are no exceptions in the late muzzleloader seaason . The gun must have open sights. This would be a good topic to write to the PGC about and try to get it changed. As to the mechanics of it, YES. I had my caplock drilled and tapped.
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Post by skwirl on Mar 20, 2007 19:43:45 GMT -4
If you want to scope your flinter ,go ahead .A scoped flinter is legal in the earl season,however to hunt late season you must remove it
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Post by 410er on Mar 20, 2007 20:38:44 GMT -4
Early season.Yes.Not late flint.I saw them mounted on percussions but not a flint yet.
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Post by zimmerstutzen on Mar 21, 2007 11:24:49 GMT -4
a scope is legal on a flinter outside the late flint season. Late season requires open sights only. A scoped flinter is good in the regular firearms season, for coyotes and wood chucks and if the caliber is right, for small game.
From a practical side, if you have some vision problems, they can sometimes be corrected by moving the rear sight forward on the barrel. (We all get older) or there are some attachments to eye glasses that can help. Last I saw they look like a small circle on the eyeglass lense where the lense is to correct your vision as you sight the rifle.
From another standpoint, remember that the flintlock hammer and frizzen don't leave much room for a scope. So mounting requires that the body of the scope be kept clear of the hammer and frizzen operation. It can be done, just harder on some than on others depending on the size of the scope and barrel width.
Incidentally, my little .32 in line came with the grooves for a 22 scope.
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Post by madirishjack on Mar 22, 2007 12:39:41 GMT -4
I've seen them on every type ML except the flinters. I've heard some guys say they saw it. But, For my money it would creat a lot more cleaning. You'd have flash residue on a scope , unless you use a long releif like those on pistols. Then you use lower powered scopes and defeat the purpose of why you have it there in the first place. My eyesight has declined some, but I found that relocating the rear sight forward or back, can in most cases, aid in solving the problem. Just wanted to say Hi to all of you that know me. this is my first post here.
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Post by willyhuntsdeer on Mar 22, 2007 18:36:40 GMT -4
thanks for the input everyone, i was basically asking about it because i was curious if there was or are any options for the guys who have problems using open sights due to medical conditions with there eyes.
luckily my eyes are perfect still, see ----->
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Post by stoneybroke on Apr 10, 2007 23:29:19 GMT -4
For the first few years of the PA primitive late season, peep sights were legal. I had a set of target sights-tang aperture with globe front with interchangeable blades. The sights were mounted on a 50 TC Hawken. With 90 grains of FFFg and hand sorted molded 370 maxis, the rifle would do about 1.5" at 100. We mounted an old Weaver K 2.5 on the rifle. The groups stayed about the same. The point I'm making is that at moderate ranges peep sights are just as accurate as low powered scopes. Also, they work much better for older shooters because you look through the peep and only have to focus on the front sight. Several years ago, I had to send the rifle back to TC for warranty work on the breech plug. About two weeks later, I got a certified letter from TC informing me that their barrels were NOT to be drilled and tapped. When the rifle was returned, it had a brand new barrel that shoots about 4" with irons. Hopefully the PGC will see fit to legalize the peep for late season. They are period correct and would really help older hunters.
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Post by berkscoflinter1 on Apr 11, 2007 9:07:49 GMT -4
I can see the value of the peep sight for old eyes (mine included), but the idea of a scope on a flintlock congers up thoughts of J.P.Beck, Beyers, Dickert, Bonewitz, Berry and many other old Pa. gunbuilders becoming quite unsettled in their resting places!
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