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Post by mrlongbeard on Feb 28, 2008 20:55:43 GMT -4
with all the new speed bows out, where does it stop. we hear all the talk of how fast the bows are does this make taking a deer easier as some say the xbow does. to me speed is over rated for hunting give me a bow that is very forgiving and quite and has moderate speed and I'm happy. speed has it's place in the target shooting world but to much is made of it for hunting. somewhere down the road we will likely see 400 fps in my opinion.
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Post by whitetail101 on Feb 28, 2008 21:11:51 GMT -4
I'm not a speed freak when it comes to a hunting bow, but I try to squeeze every fps I can out of my compettion bow. Currently my competition bow with a 316 grain arrow is giving me 253 fps at 60#. My X-force, which is set up for hunting is currently giving me, with a 409 grain arrow, 306 fps at 65# which equates to 80+ KE , a number I thought I would never see in archery hunting, I'm now good to go on everything including polar bear if I'm crazy enough to ;D. This may change in a few weeks when I have the new custom string installed, the above numbers are with the factory string.
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Post by fastarrows on Feb 29, 2008 9:37:49 GMT -4
My Diamond is launching a 410 grain arrow at 291 FPS. Iam not one for saying you have to break the 300 barrior, but shooting something that is to slow is not always a good idea either. Some people shoot mechanical heads, but there bows are to slow to provide the KE needed to open them and still penatrate the animal. Its not all about the speed. Arrow weight is just as big, but you must balance the two.
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Post by firefightnlife on Feb 29, 2008 9:41:34 GMT -4
now how can go find out the speed, just visit the local archery shop?
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Post by whitetail101 on Feb 29, 2008 9:49:58 GMT -4
take your bow and an arrow tipped with a filed point the same weight as your broadhead, to your local pro shop.
An archery pro, if he's a good one will have a chrony available to shoot through.
Shoot a 3 shot string and take the average speed of the 3 and enter it into a KE calculator(usually found on line, but the pro should have one)
good luck
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Post by XMan on Feb 29, 2008 9:50:00 GMT -4
I could care less about the 300fps mark. I only have one bow that is over that mark. Even my competition bows are around 280fps. I shoot 60 lbs on my hunting bow. I've had a pass through on every deer I've killed. One of these days these companies are going to advertize their bow at a high speed. One of them bows are going to blow apart and seriously injure someone. When is enough enough? ? As I always say a fast miss is still a miss.
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Post by fastarrows on Feb 29, 2008 9:52:01 GMT -4
"As i always say a fast miss is still a miss."
Outstanding quote Xman! As you I dont not care about the 300 foot mark, but a lot do. I come close, and dont care. Its all about shot placement and KE for this guy! Heck this year I did not get a pass through on my buck, but that happens when you hit both sholder blades hehehe. I still dropped the deer like a rag tho....
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Post by firefightnlife on Feb 29, 2008 9:54:49 GMT -4
is speed a factor when you use a one pin site, non pendulum? my buddy using one pin for 10 20m 30 and 40
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Post by XMan on Feb 29, 2008 9:59:40 GMT -4
You can get away with one pin for up to a certain distance. Unless you're shooting 325fps 40 yards is kind of stretching it. On my hunting setup I use my same 3D scope for hunting. I set it for 25 yards. Knowing your equipment I can judge out to 35-40 yards at the most. Any farther I wouldn't attempt a shot with this setup.
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Post by whitetail101 on Feb 29, 2008 10:00:02 GMT -4
ffl - yes speed will play a factor with a single pin sight.
The faster the arrow the flatter the trajectory and the more likely you will be able to use one pin several distances before you will need to either move it or switch to another pin
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Post by firefightnlife on Feb 29, 2008 10:08:33 GMT -4
ok then no point in checking my bow it's slow i need all my pins
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Post by XMan on Feb 29, 2008 10:21:03 GMT -4
Yes that's true. Your going to have to shoot around 70lbs though. Now you're going to have to control all that power. That's why I said a fast miss is still a miss. Got to go back to work.
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Post by firefightnlife on Feb 29, 2008 10:32:17 GMT -4
my let off is like 35% 70# would be a bear
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Post by fastarrows on Feb 29, 2008 10:33:39 GMT -4
Wow 35%!!! You pulling a bow made in 1975??? LOL mines 80%......
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Post by firefightnlife on Feb 29, 2008 10:43:06 GMT -4
i don't know exactly but it's a second time hand me down, i think a 90's version it's a hoyt, not much let off hahaha
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