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Post by loggy on Jan 26, 2008 10:53:57 GMT -4
What factory production flintlock has been around the longest/still being mfg today??
I dont know the answer but maybe some here do??
OK you ML Historians or ole farts...here you chance!!!! ;D
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Post by zimmerstutzen on Jan 28, 2008 14:02:05 GMT -4
For longevity, it is probably TC's Hawken. The Italian Hawken flinter has been around a long time under many brand names.
There were a few foreign companies that were still in the business of making muzzleloaders for 3rd world markets in the 1950's when muzzleloading started it's rebirth. A fella named Southgate was making muzzleloaders out in, I believe Indiana, in the 1950's on a production basis. He used cheap foreign locks and most of his barrels were machined out of car axles from scrap yards.
Turner Kirkland founder of Dixie Gun Works, got some over seas companies to make muzzleloaders for him since the early 1960's. Most of them were percussion though. In the late 1960's to 1970 CVA and TC started selling Muzzleloaders. I bought my first flinter, a CVA kentucky pistol kit in December of 1972 at Two Guy's in Whitehall PA.
Most of the older style guns have gone out of production, or the companies have "moved on" The Italian Hawkens are still offerred in Cabela's catelogue. And I occasionally see ads for those POS kentucky style, made in spain, rifles with the two piece wooden stocks.
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Post by onager on Jan 28, 2008 20:25:37 GMT -4
Does POS stand for Pricey Over Seas?
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Post by loggy on Jan 28, 2008 21:14:03 GMT -4
Point Of Sale" in the business world! ;D
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Post by greybearjr on Jan 28, 2008 23:25:01 GMT -4
Zim hit it on the head here. CVA, in its many forms has probably been around the longest, although Pedroselli has been in business internationally the longest. My favorite was Ultra High Products (one of those two piece pieces of junk) imported from India by Kassnar firearms right here in Harrisburg.
GBJ
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Post by zimmerstutzen on Jan 29, 2008 10:12:51 GMT -4
My Brother has an Ultrahigh percussion pistol, made in Spain.
Remember Hopkins and Allen's under hammer guns?
My BIL still hunts with a CVA flinter, two piece stock.
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Post by greybearjr on Jan 29, 2008 23:00:28 GMT -4
I use to compete with one of the Hopkins and Allen pistols when they came out. Those guns could really shoot. I think I still have some Ultra High parts around here somewhere.
The first gun I built with my Dad, now nearly 30 years ago, was the first version of the Dixie Tennesse Mt. Rifle with the 15/16th Barrel. That gun is a boat anchor weight wise but after some 10000 rounds through her she still drives tacks on the range. I replaced the crappy lock with one of the L & R's some 10 years ago. She ain't to pretty any more but I will never part with that gun for anything!!
GBJ
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Post by zimmerstutzen on Jan 30, 2008 16:45:18 GMT -4
I was very surprised that Dixie stopped production of the Tenn Mountain rifle. Heavy as can be. I shot a great many matches with one. Sure built up the arm and shoulder muscles shooting that thing. It was pretty well made and manufactured in Japan as I recall. I have both flint and perc locks for mine and never shortened it.
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