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Post by truegrit on Jun 14, 2007 15:15:03 GMT -4
dougell, I didn't know you went hunting with Chuck?
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jun 14, 2007 15:29:19 GMT -4
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Post by dougell on Jun 14, 2007 15:43:17 GMT -4
Trugrit,I never hunted with the man or even met him.I did however read one of his books and he advocated shooting big game in the ass.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but that's out of bounds with my ethics.I'm sure all three of these guys are great hunters and I'm not trying to dispute that.However,anyone that says you can't get good broadhead flight over 280 fps is flat out wrong.It's even worse to suggest that someone should shoot a mechanic broadhead out of an untuned bow.
Mrlongbeard,I don't understand your lastpoint at all.For a new bowhunter,I'd recommend finding a good quality bow that fits.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jun 14, 2007 17:29:28 GMT -4
again i said NO HARD FAST RULES TO THIS. what don't you understand about that statement. what i'm saying is everybody seems like speed is the only way to go. know plently of people who use exspanables due to speed. if you don't buy good quality broadheads and they are not straight all the tuning in the world will help. nobody said you can't tune a bow at high speed. just some ideals to work with. NO HARD FAST RULES.
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Post by dougell on Jun 14, 2007 17:56:15 GMT -4
Anyone that uses expandables due to speed is masking the true problem of an un-tuned bow.No one should ever use any broadhead before spin-testing it.
I understand the NO HARD RULES statement.I just have a hard time understanding why any so-called professional would claim such nonsense.It's all about tuning and form,not speed.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jun 14, 2007 20:02:54 GMT -4
not everybody is so cocerned with speed like you are. this isn't the only people should worry about when they shoot a bow. all this ibo speeds is a bunch of bull. give me a bow that shoots slow and easy over all that speed. the so called experts happen to think speed is over rated also
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Post by dougell on Jun 15, 2007 8:47:58 GMT -4
Where did I post anything that infers I'm only concerned with speed?I bought a bowtech tribute this past winter and kept the smooth modules on instead of putting on the speed modules.In fact,this bow is about 5 fps slower than my old Mathews lx.I like the tribute better though because it's quieter,has a smoother draw and a much longer brace height which makes it more forgiving.My only point is that you can still achieve perfect broadhead flight well above 280 fps.Anyone that states you can't,is 100% wrong.
I agree that being able hit what you're aiming at is more important than spedd.However,shooting a relatively fast bow has alot of advantages and there's no reason you can't tune them or shoot them just as accurately as a much slower bow.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Jun 15, 2007 15:38:38 GMT -4
nobody said you CAN'T. thats what no hard fast rules means. just a rule to work by. a lot of people won't go throught all the work to get their bow tuned just right. last post here you just don't get it
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Post by dougell on Jun 15, 2007 18:42:38 GMT -4
There isn't alot of work involved with getting good broadhead flight,just some simple principles that need tobe followed.If guy's won't do that,they should take up a sport that doesn't require making a clean ethical kill.Screwing a mechanical broadhead on the end of a arrow that's being shot from an untuned bow is iresponsible.Thank you but I do get it.
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Post by Buckslayer on Sept 21, 2007 20:52:06 GMT -4
look at what the synper 2 bladed did in deer hunting forum..anyone see the pics??
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Post by boxie30 on Sept 22, 2007 7:09:44 GMT -4
Remember everyone has an opinion even the Pro's but with the pros you need to know that there info may be driven by endorsements.
IMO the shot placement out weights the number of blades your broad head has.
With that said: If you want penetration and complete pass thrus (consistently) I believe the two blade style are your best bet (Zwickey,Magnus type) even with optional bleeders
if maximum hemorrhaging is what your looking for, so you have a no doubt blood trail you need to have a 4 blade BH (like the muzzy)
Any type of broad head will get the job done as long as you have done your job in making sure they are tuned (by practicing with them) and making sure they are RAZOR sharp.
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Post by markr on Sept 22, 2007 9:19:49 GMT -4
I shot Muzzy 3 blade 100 grain heads for about 12 years until I switched to the Montec G-5, 100 grains. I like the Montec's because they are one piece and I can resharpen them. They fly true as my field points and tune easily.
I tried mechanical heads and I will not go back to them because I lost a buck about 10 years ago with one.
Mark
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Post by mrlongbeard on Sept 22, 2007 12:01:02 GMT -4
a lot of the talk is mute on three vs two . it only matters where th shot is put.
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Post by markr on Sept 23, 2007 21:14:52 GMT -4
This is true Mr. Longbeard.
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