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Post by willyhuntsdeer on Aug 1, 2007 14:24:32 GMT -4
how many people have Horton or other brand xbows that have the dial-a-range setup and actually use it?
myself i disabled mine so that my scope stays rock solid and can not move, in the past a had one that would not stay zero'd due to the scope base moving all the time when it was shot.
i tried new rings a different scope and everything before i finally figured out what was going on, but once the dial-a-range was disabled it never lost zero again....
it was useless to me anyways considering i use the mult-reticle scope and it was pretty much designed for use with single dot or reticle type scopes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2007 15:08:50 GMT -4
Keep it set at zero and go with the mult-reticle scope on my 20-30- etc...
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Post by abraxas9083 on Aug 1, 2007 16:41:51 GMT -4
I use the dial - a - range with one of my Horton Crossbow. I put a rifle scope (1.5-6x42) in it . And as you said i loose the zero frecuently. I have to calibrate my scope everytime i use it. I thinks that the dia a range is the worst mechanics in the Horton crossbow. I hope that someday Horton put a system like the Wolfszeit adjustable scope mount (used in excalibur crossbows)
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Post by gullythumper on Aug 2, 2007 18:44:38 GMT -4
I do what buckhunter does. Leave it on zero and use the multi-reticle scope. Kinda stupid to put the dial-a-range on then sell the bow with only a multi-reticule scope. Abraxas, if you got a regular rifle scope to work, Bravo to you!!. You either got a darn good scope or are the luckiest person around, because I've seen first hand what a crossbow will do to a regular scope. They're not normally built to handle the vibrations of a crossbow and will usually fall apart inside rather quickly. I've seen Leupolds destroyed by crossbows. Even the manufacturers will advise against the use of scopes not specifically designed for crossbows
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Post by Buckslayer on Aug 2, 2007 21:44:41 GMT -4
im with leave it on zero and use the horton scope,ive heard of some guys screwing the dial a range so it wont move..
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Post by abraxas9083 on Aug 2, 2007 22:44:19 GMT -4
I do what buckhunter does. Leave it on zero and use the multi-reticle scope. Kinda stupid to put the dial-a-range on then sell the bow with only a multi-reticule scope. Abraxas, if you got a regular rifle scope to work, Bravo to you!!. You either got a darn good scope or are the luckiest person around, because I've seen first hand what a crossbow will do to a regular scope. They're not normally built to handle the vibrations of a crossbow and will usually fall apart inside rather quickly. I've seen Leupolds destroyed by crossbows. Even the manufacturers will advise against the use of scopes not specifically designed for crossbows yes you are right to say that crossbow destroy firegun scopes, but not all scopes. Looks Meopta scopes (they have a garanty of 5 years for use with crossbows) and also i went directly to Leupold and they assured me that i would have no problems using any of their scopes with a crossbow. In my case i use very little the crossbow with the firegun scope, only for practice large shoots. By the other hand air gun scopes resist very good the crossbows vivrations, that can be a good and cheap option Air rifle scopes are much stronger than rifle scopes due to the multi directional recoil forces imposed on a scope by an air rifle. Crossbow had similar recoil forces as a powerful spring operated air rifle. Crossbow optic is a hard discussion. If you have for ex. a horton summit many optics could be good, but if you use a horton hunter hd 175, few optics can resist
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Post by mclaughlin on Oct 5, 2007 16:19:04 GMT -4
Have the same problem. How did you disable dial-a-range?
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Post by Buckslayer on Oct 5, 2007 16:31:10 GMT -4
ive heard of some guys drilling a small 1/8 hole in the dial a range its self and using a self tapping wood screw to disable it,mines on zero and it never moves,i guess if you dont like the drill idea maybe you could superglue it..
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Post by mrlongbeard on Oct 8, 2007 21:31:13 GMT -4
let me see if i've got this right. if my leupold vx-III will hold up to my 300 ultra mag and i decide to put it on my crossbow it won't hold up? not trying to start anything here but i don't think so.
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Post by willyhuntsdeer on Oct 10, 2007 19:04:02 GMT -4
maybe this will help....
the issue isnt about the scope or type being used, what some are saying is that there scope doesn't keep its zero' but its not due to scope failure.
its due to the fact that some have problems with the scope rail/scope moving due to the dial-a-range functionality on there xbows, i had this happen on one of my xbows and after disabling it it kept zero fine.
my current xbow was fine...but i disabled it anyways just in case, i think the problem is that the dial-a-range parts get worn with age and then you stat to have issues.
now....far as a rifle scope holding up on a xbow, thats a chance one would have to take .
because according to a Horton Dealer...the problem with putting rifle scopes on xbows is that xbows have reverse recoil, its the exact opposite of what rifles have and it could possibly cause the lens's to pop out of your scope one day.
i know guys that have had them on xbows for years and they were and are fine to this day, yet i have also seen one that actually had the lens come out.
myself...i stick with what the factory says is right for my equiptment, that way i know its going to be right.
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Post by mrlongbeard on Oct 10, 2007 20:37:21 GMT -4
lookng at the charts a 300 ultra mag shooting a 200 grain bullet puts out over 50 ft/lbs of kick. there isn't a crossbow made that comes close.
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Post by willyhuntsdeer on Oct 11, 2007 1:05:05 GMT -4
no disputes as to what the scope can indure or that xbows dont have the recoil that guns do, its just that rifle scopes were not designed to be used in reverse recoil situations.
if i remember correctly...what the tech told me was, a gun scope is designed to absorb backwards recoil and a xbow scope is designed to absorb forwards recoil.
he stated that if a rifle scope is used on an xbow it may or may not hold up under the forward recoil pressure, he also stated some guys would still rather put a cheap scope on and hope for the best' rather then pay what it cost for a good xbow scope.
not trying to argue, just trying to explain it the way it was told to me by the Horton dealer/tech.
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Post by Buckslayer on Oct 11, 2007 8:16:07 GMT -4
ive also heard from my gunsmith that rifle scopes cannot be used or rec for use on a shotgun but people do it anyways..
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