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Post by boatcapt on Jul 26, 2007 15:47:20 GMT -4
I don't remember if it was on this site or another but someone had a link to a website that showed all the states that have a reciprocal agreement with PA. on concealed pistol permits i/e states that recognize Pa permit holders. any help???
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Post by batchief909 on Jul 28, 2007 8:37:34 GMT -4
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Post by boatcapt on Jul 28, 2007 18:33:00 GMT -4
that's the one - Thanks Chief
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Post by rflktrman on Jul 29, 2007 6:50:24 GMT -4
Very good post, however if you look we in Pa can't legally get our guns to some states that recognize ours. Ohio, W Va., NY, NJ, and Md. all don't recognize our permits. What a bummer!
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Post by onager on Aug 6, 2007 18:14:01 GMT -4
maybe someone can point me to an accurate website to answer this question. Does the license to carry in PA. Allow you to openly carry your handgun. Or MUST it be concealed? The NRA/ILA site seemed a bit unclear. My son is doing some on-line research now that he is 21. Some of the sites seem to contradict each other on the PA license to carry laws.
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Post by jimpic on Aug 7, 2007 7:05:31 GMT -4
The weapon must be concealed
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Post by gullythumper on Aug 7, 2007 9:05:10 GMT -4
It's been a long time since I reviewed and interpreted handgun rules here, but when I did, here's what I got. A person who legally owns a handgun can carry it in public as long as it's in plain view and of course they don't go into any federal establishment such as courthouses, post offices, banks, etc. It's actually supposed to be even visible in your vehicle unless it's cased and separate from the ammo. With a CCW, one can carry the gun concealed on their person or in their vehicle, but again obiding by the federal rule pertaining to carry in buildings. Per the first part, I would strongly recommend anyone carrying a gun in public and in view, to have at least a Treasurer's permit to carry it for hunting and target practice, but the Sherriff's permit for CCW is certainly the better way to go.
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Post by onager on Aug 7, 2007 14:02:19 GMT -4
My son, who is much better with the internet than I, found some info. Since there is no specific law PROHIBITING open carry when one has a license to carry. The web site he was on( I will get from him and post),stated there is a "de facto" right to carry openly. However, it is discouraged from carrying openly, since some in law enforcement may not interpret the carry laws the same as a lawyer. I am still open to other posts. I try to think of different scenarios re, carrying my handgun. I want to excercise my rights responsibly.
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Post by onager on Aug 9, 2007 13:28:19 GMT -4
Ok. Here is an interesting site wwwpafoa.org(Pennsylvania Firearms Owners Association) They discussed at length the license to carry issues. They also list other resources and links. I am ashamed to admit I have had a right to carry license for years and have not read up on the nuances of carry issues. Sometimes we learn from our children. My son who is 21 has done alot of research BEFORE getting a handgun.
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Post by djturnz on Aug 16, 2007 12:07:33 GMT -4
Ok there is a lot of wrong info in this thread.
Open carry is legal in PA, by anyone 18years or older that is not prohibitted from owning a gun. No license is required to open carry except for Philly. In Philly you must have a PA LTCF (License to Carry Firearms). Without a LTCF you cannot carry a loded handgun in your car.
The only places you cannot carry concealed in PA are: Any Court Houses (ie. local, state , county, federal) All court houses are required by law to provide you a locker, free of charge, to secure your handgun while in the building. Federal buildings or property (Post office, National Park (Gettysburg National Battlefield)) Public Schools- The law is unclear on this, and has yet to be challenged. The wording allows for carrying on school property as a "Lawful Purpose", however there has been no court rulings to say that self defense is a "Lawful Purpose".
That's it. You can carry anywhere else. Banks are fine, Bars are fine. Private property works as follows: If they have a "No Guns" sign on the door, it carries no legal weight. If they ask you to leave and you do without question, no legal problems. If you refuse, or cause a problem, the most they can charge you with is Tresspass. Just like "no shirt, no shoes, no service" the sign has no legal meaning, you must be verbally told.
Yes PAFOA.org is a very good site. I use the same screen name there.
Incase you all aren't aware of recent changes in PA law, you can also carry concealed with a permit during archery season and while spotting.
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Post by batchief909 on Aug 23, 2007 19:37:40 GMT -4
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Post by djturnz on Aug 30, 2007 12:50:17 GMT -4
Pa does have reciprocity with West Virginia.
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Post by flounderpounder on Sept 4, 2007 22:10:16 GMT -4
new amendment to law this year .....you can carry a concealed weapon with your permit to carry while in you're vehicle while you spotlight deer.no more taking the pistol out of the vehicle to go spoting every time you go out
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Post by djturnz on Sept 6, 2007 11:43:54 GMT -4
The same amendment allows you to carry your concealed handgun (w/ LTCF or course) all seasons including archery and ML.
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Post by steve261 on Oct 6, 2007 22:35:36 GMT -4
As already stated, open carry is 100% legal in PA without having a LTC (license to carry). Only in Philly must the person have a LTC whether they are carrying openly or concealed.
However, you cannot have a loaded handgun in your vehicle unless you have a LTC.
You can also NOT open carry an unloaded handgun in your vehicle.
There is no requirement for the handgun to be visible inside a vehicle.
Having a LTC does NOT require that you carry concealed, it only ALLOWS you to carry concealed.
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